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| Gp, I kind of understood what you were getting at when you suggested this idea on my talk page, however I was uncertain on what you really meant. Now that you have explained yourself in more detail and this topic is well under way, I'm just going to shed my thoughts on the situation.
- Firstly as far as I am aware this is preventative action to something, which in the future, well may occur. However I must stress that while I've been an admin here, which is for the entirety of this wiki's existence, there has only been one administration issue. This was between me and the site's co-founder Glacier Wolf, who some of you may remember, and it was dealt with swiftly, maturely and quickly. Since then I have absolutely no record of administration civility or user right violations.
- To the rest of the administration I'm going to clarify this now, Gp means no offence or implications of demotions whatsoever. He came to me first and I gave permission to open this topic to the community. This is merely his opinion and as an active and good leadership group, we must listen to it without putting him down as soon as we assume our position in the community is at risk, when really its not.
- The poll is a good way of gathering qualitative information about the community's opinions and views on this topic, however regardless of its result no action will be taken nor will any new pages be made. I along with everyone else will take the results into account but this issue is too important and delicate to have its solution formed entirely upon one poll. So please don't hesitate to use the results to back up any opinions and still vote if you haven't already, however the final solution will be proposed if you read on:
- May i briefly note here, as it has just come to mind, that assistants are valued members of the community who assist with the site's maintenance, however they are not part of the administration as they have as much say in decision making and leadership as regular users do, which may i point out is limited if not none. Administration is purely bureaus and sysops.
- As previously stated in my earlier points this topic should be taken as preventative action, not as an attack against the current administration. I agree that a central page should be made. I feel that a new portal along with some other pages need to be created. Here's what I feel is necessary for the solution of this issue:
- User Review Portal
- This will be a portal where users can raise issues or opinions on any user on the site. I believe that isolating the administration is wrong since other users do most of the rule breaking and isolating just the other users never gives room for improvement by criticism of the administration. Therefore, along the lines of equality, all users shall be able to be criticised or from now on reviewed. On this portal there'll be a forum like set up with three main sections:
- Administrator Reviews - Bureaucrats and system operators.
- Assistant Reviews - Assistants.
- Site User Reviews - Users that edit the site however they do not hold the assistant or administrative roles.
- From this users may review towards (or if you like to be honest: constructively criticise against) any user. Depending on what role they have as a member of Burnopedia, will mean what section their review is put in. I'll get to work on this once i have some more free time. However it will be done soon.
- User Review Policy
- This is the second phase of the topic's solution. As you can imagine the less mature and emotionally stable users of the site may use this as a place for offence. This is why i propose a policy, to link in with the new policy improvement and creation drive (actually i might make that an official sub-project of Rebirth), but mainly to guide regular users on how and where to structure their reviews and to remind civility and rule breakers on how to do the same but without offence or rule breaking. Overall this ensures that a mature, non-aggressive and civil attitude is kept when reviewing members of the site and/or its clan. Think of this as preventative action for the preventative action. Preventative Action Squared in short.
- So now that's all established and up for discussion and, if we can keep agreement on the high, then i'll get to work on making it official and set in stone. However i also saw that you were talking about the rules of this site. I know this may seem shocking coming fro the founder of this site but i haven't actually read word-for-word the rules of this site. I merely kept a civil attitude and an assumed knowledge of what is right and wrong on a wiki, since the site's creation. Therefore along side the new policy drive i would like the link of the simplified rule set or where ever the list of rules is and i'll move it to a new policy page and we'll have that as a sub-sub-project of Rebirth. It will go into more detail on old rules and maybe establish some new ones too. It will be split up into General Rules, Site Rules and Clan Rules.
- Overall here is what needs doing:
- Portal:User Reviews - This along with sub-links have been explained.
- Portal:User Reviews/Administrators
- Portal:User Reviews/Assistants
- Portal:User Reviews/Regular Users
- Portal:Policies - Under construction main hub portal page for policies.
- Portal:Policies/User Reviews - This has been explained.
- Portal:Policies/Site & Clan Rules - This has been explained.
- Portal:Policies/Sanctions - This will be sorted later to accompany the rules.
- Forum:Project: Rebirth
So there you have it, my clarification and say on what needs doing. Some of you may disagree with this however i fail to see how you could. I suppose the main reason for disagreement will no doubt be the issue of all this work's unnecessary planning and implementation. However we must remember Preventative Action Squared. I would like to implement all of this however this is no dictatorship, so i would like some agreement first. However its neither a democracy so we're just going to collate opinions and use a community consensus on the issue. In conclusion, now i've proposed something solid we can discuss what we do and don't like about it. If the only reason you disagree with this is because you find it unnecessary then please do not voice an opinion. Regards and thanks for reading.
Posted @: 08:24, June 27, 2010 (UTC).
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